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作者:mwpmo (203.xxx.xxx.109) 發表主題:44 回應文章:393 日期:2005-09-25 12:38
> boil 完後可以摩嗎?

Of cause you can, but I don't know how!
You can email Mr. Ho and ask!

> 這是否用non-sampling有關?

May be! As I said before, DAC17 which use old generation DAC is not as sharp as DAC19 thta use new generation DAC.

But I like DAC17 more, it suit my taste.
 


作者:ckc (61.xxx.xxx.2) 發表主題:48 回應文章:295 日期:2005-09-24 23:27
and then 我略嫌音場唔係好闊,boil 完後可以摩嗎? 這是否用non-sampling有關?
 


作者:ckc (222.xxx.xxx.185) 發表主題:48 回應文章:295 日期:2005-09-22 23:47
Can you tell me what change before / after boil?
 


作者:mwpmo (203.xxx.xxx.109) 發表主題:44 回應文章:393 日期:2005-09-22 23:35
Of cause You can!

In my case, I keep it on for two weeks just to "boil" it as quick as possible.
 


作者:ckc (61.xxx.xxx.200) 發表主題:48 回應文章:295 日期:2005-09-22 23:08
Why cannot turn off the power?
 


作者:mwpmo (203.xxx.xxx.109) 發表主題:44 回應文章:393 日期:2005-09-22 20:26
>> let it on for about 2 weeks
> non-stop????

Yes!

>> You may keep the DAC on
> 你講boil緊的時候 or 已後都係

已後都係
 


作者:ckc (222.xxx.xxx.161) 發表主題:48 回應文章:295 日期:2005-09-22 19:48
> let it on for about 2 weeks
non-stop????

> You may keep the DAC on
你講boil緊的時候 or 已後都係
 


作者:mwpmo (218.xxx.xxx.167) 發表主題:44 回應文章:393 日期:2005-09-22 14:25
When I received it, I let it on for about 2 weeks, (14 x 24 = 336 hrs)

However, for better "boiling", you need to connect a digital audio source to it.

For me, I used a cheap VCD player to play a Run-IN CD repeatly for 2 weeks.

You may keep the DAC on, but the power consumed by DAC17 is much higher than other DAC, you may need to pay a higher electricity bill for it.

However, there is a design life of the e-cap, keep it on may shorter the life-span of those e-caps, especially in high-temp condition.
 


作者:ckc (202.xxx.xxx.6) 發表主題:48 回應文章:295 日期:2005-09-22 12:30
Yes, the case is very heat, Can I turn on the dac for a long time? Is it danger? I want hurry up to boil
300-400 hrs ........
 


作者:mwpmo (218.xxx.xxx.167) 發表主題:44 回應文章:393 日期:2005-09-22 09:45
> First about 15 mins, the sound is , but after 15mins the sound .

Yes! Just like Pure Class-A Amp, you need to let the DAC17 heat up itself.

Don't touch the case afterwards, cause it is quite hot! (45-50 degree in my DAC)

In addition, I think 150 hrs is not enough, please boil it for 300-400 hrs in total.
 


作者:ckc (222.xxx.xxx.237) 發表主題:48 回應文章:295 日期:2005-09-21 23:28
First about 15 mins, the sound is , but after 15mins the sound

Mr ho said just boiled about 40 hrs, so I think it need about 100 hrs additional boiling.
balance sound, anaylsis, 動態, airly are better than my cdp but not too much, overall sound is good, I will 耐心 boil it.
 


作者:mwpmo (203.xxx.xxx.109) 發表主題:44 回應文章:393 日期:2005-09-21 21:45
Before Mr. Ho delivery the product, usually he will "boil" it for about 100hrs.

But Ithink at least you need to "boil" for additional 250 hrs

BTW, What's the sound now!
 


作者:ckc (202.xxx.xxx.6) 發表主題:48 回應文章:295 日期:2005-09-21 12:45
I received the dac la, I am boiling it, I think this dac is balance.
audio-gd has a new toy cd-1 wor!
 


作者:mwpmo (218.xxx.xxx.167) 發表主題:44 回應文章:393 日期:2005-09-03 11:51
Yes! The strength of this DAC is the sound is well-balanced.
 


作者:ckc (202.xxx.xxx.6) 發表主題:48 回應文章:295 日期:2005-09-01 08:20
I email to mr ho last night & can tell me what I like--good anaylsis, dynamic, hard bass, vocal airy & natural (not "bill"), he replied me said this dac is about this charactor.
 


作者:mwpmo (203.xxx.xxx.109) 發表主題:44 回應文章:393 日期:2005-09-01 07:16
> Can mr ho speak & listen 廣東話? 我不懂果語!

I don't know cause I always use email.

But he is in 廣東, so I think he can speak 廣東話.
 


作者:ckc (61.xxx.xxx.173) 發表主題:48 回應文章:295 日期:2005-08-31 19:16
Can mr ho speak & listen 廣東話? 我不懂果語!
you are 師傅 too la, haha
 


作者:mwpmo (218.xxx.xxx.167) 發表主題:44 回應文章:393 日期:2005-08-31 14:12
For my case, I am really happy with it but I really don't know whether it will meet your requirement.

Feel free to call Mr. Ho to discuss. I think he know it much much more than me. You can find his phone number in his web page.
 


作者:ckc (202.xxx.xxx.6) 發表主題:48 回應文章:295 日期:2005-08-31 12:20
Mum........, I will try to discuss with Mr. Ho tonight, I like anaylsis & airy, but vocal not "bill", punchy bass, do u think this dac is o.k?
 


作者:mwpmo (218.xxx.xxx.167) 發表主題:44 回應文章:393 日期:2005-08-30 17:26
ckc,

Please note that the "mod" we are talking is not like normal mod that replace some component with other brand name or type used.

It is just change the value of some component (adjust the operating point the the whole circuit).

If you trust Mr. Ho (the designer), just tell him your "taste" and let Mr. Ho design the circuit to suit your "taste".

Or you went to China and listen to Mr. Ho's DAC17 with standard design and then tell him how you want to be adjust the sound.
 


作者:ckc (202.xxx.xxx.6) 發表主題:48 回應文章:295 日期:2005-08-30 16:59
but I want listen the dac no mod version, and then find out what I want to improve. Can u give me some suggestion if I want to mod.
 


作者:mwpmo (218.xxx.xxx.183) 發表主題:44 回應文章:393 日期:2005-08-30 14:24
> yes, I received his email last night, he said need about 10/8

Cause every DAC17 is build-to-order and hand-made, so you need to wait.

Don't worry, it takes me two months to received my DAC17.

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For DAC17, Yes! There is no need to mod.

However, since Mr, Ho cannot get good connectors in China
(like IEC power connector, RCA connector and Balanced Connector)

If you really want to use those High-end connectors, you can mail them to him and ask him to use it in your DAC17.

In addition, you can tell Mr. Ho what is your "taste" of music and he can modify it (with adjustment ot value of component) to suit your taste.
 


作者:ckc (202.xxx.xxx.6) 發表主題:48 回應文章:295 日期:2005-08-30 12:15
yes, I received his email last night, he said need about 10/8
he said no need mod anything in this dac. what u think?
 


作者:mwpmo (218.xxx.xxx.183) 發表主題:44 回應文章:393 日期:2005-08-30 12:08
Have you received response from Mr. Ho?

If not, please another email to him.
 


作者:ckc (61.xxx.xxx.166) 發表主題:48 回應文章:295 日期:2005-08-29 19:07
haha! 一係唔買,一買就買盡D ma!
I like dac 17 the inside of design.
I only write down his english name & my name in the western union's form, no write his id & address 呀! ths western union shopper said is o.k., but audio-gd still no reply me????
I gave audio-gd information is his name, my name, MTCN no., price, address is "hong kong", no others la!!
 


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作者: mwpmo (202.xxx.xxx.147) 發表主題:44 回應文章:393 日期:2005-02-04 16:46

After my DIY CD Player was completed, I started my new DIY project.

A DAC with Burr-Brown DIR1703 數碼接收晶片 and Analog Device 的頂級DAC - AD1955 解碼晶片


 


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