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作者:Tequila (222.xxx.xxx.199) 發表主題:26 回應文章:1244 日期:2006-06-07 21:37
Humanpower hing, IC
我都試過見過Onkyo既Combo Player, L跟N出廠時內部PCB駁錯,Brown線駁左去N(無fuse),Blue線駁左去L。

一般大廠都好少錯,但晤知點解某一的機反相駁會好的(內部無駁錯,L是有fuse的)。

我一般較聲時(尤其未玩過個的)先依Standard 駁好。再準備兩條一式一樣,但一條正相一條反相既電源線。一部一部機試。基本工夫唉。
 

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作者:humanpower (221.xxx.xxx.158) 發表主題:90 回應文章:2622 日期:2006-06-07 12:59
Tequila兄:

你說得對,
但我說的,
都是對........



你說的是理論,
我說的是實際情況,
你折開多幾部機,
你就明我講乜...........

 

支持影音分家。睇戲要追求現場感及「戲」氛;聽歌要追 求純真、甜美、舒服。

作者:Tequila (66.xxx.xxx.60) 發表主題:26 回應文章:1244 日期:2006-06-02 16:06
HumanPower Hing, are you sure what you are talking about?

IEC320 is a electric standard and the picture correctly shows the wiring. If you open up any industry standard IEC plug, it clearly stated which "leg" is the Live, which is Neutral and Earth. You know the reason? Because protection device such as fuse or circuit breaker in each equipment should be wired on the "Live" side.

Same principle applies to US and UK plugs (UK is obvious because it has a fuse inside). All these plugs have clearly stated which is Live, Neutral and Earth and the picture again is correct.

All products that use the "multi-system" plug HAVE the same problem. If this is wired as UK, it would be wrong for US plug (and power cord). If this is wired as US, it would be wrong for the UK.

So far I have only touched the electrical wiring correctness, haven't event talked about sonic difference. Sonically, most machine sound proper when wired correctly. However, there are some exceptions where machines sound better when wired out of phase (or polarity).
 

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作者:humanpower (221.xxx.xxx.47) 發表主題:90 回應文章:2622 日期:2006-06-02 01:14
TEQUILA兄:

你幅圖左下角及左上角的兩張是錯的,
每部機身上的插座都會有唔同相位,
iec頭亦然,
所以這兩張圖是錯的.......

各位兄弟:

於香港,
無論你是用英式電源線定美式,
相位都正常會是英式的,
友網上好多人連相位都唔知係乜,
已經扮晒大佬,
睇完當笑話米算law.......
隆宇無論是英式或美式插,
都是英式相位的,
這不是錯,
反而更有利控制相位變化.........

 

支持影音分家。睇戲要追求現場感及「戲」氛;聽歌要追 求純真、甜美、舒服。

作者:P.Yeung (219.xxx.xxx.117) 發表主題:53 回應文章:1144 日期:2006-06-01 10:57
If it is using those "multi-system" type sockets, the "phase" (or the "polarity") can only be right in one way as US and UK sockets are oriented differently. That is also one of the reasons why such sockets are in violation of HK's eletrical code.
 

Cheers! PKY

作者:Tequila (222.xxx.xxx.199) 發表主題:26 回應文章:1244 日期:2006-06-01 08:09
揾支"它筆"它下咪知囉。
 

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作者:Dearsteven (210.xxx.xxx.7) 發表主題:38 回應文章:175 日期:2006-05-30 18:24
請問有無人知隆宇拖板是英式或美式?
 


作者:Tequila (222.xxx.xxx.199) 發表主題:26 回應文章:1244 日期:2006-05-29 23:07
"如果我個隆宇拖板又插英式又插美式,是否代表其中一隻相位是錯的呢?"
Yes


Fundamental tuning: you need to test individual machine and see which phase sounds better. Some (only some) machines sounds better when electric is connected "out of phase"

 

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作者: Dearsteven (218.xxx.xxx.127) 發表主題:38 回應文章:175 日期:2006-05-29 21:43

隔離台有人話如果個拖板插英式又得,美式又得,個相位一定有問題,此話問解?
如果我個隆宇拖板又插英式又插美式,是否代表其中一隻相位是錯的呢?
 


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