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作者:Ferrarian (219.xxx.xxx.51) 發表主題:49 回應文章:792 日期:2004-11-14 23:39
係nikon機呀
通常都係影相影到黃昏,唔夠光又唔想用閃燈個時會開到1.8囉
不過咁搞法好易out fo
 

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作者:dc925 (219.xxx.xxx.171) 發表主題:266 回應文章:7227 日期:2004-11-14 23:15
如果我有錢多就買1.4,冇錢多就買1.8,其實我支1.8是好少有機會比我用到
f/1.8
 

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作者:攝影狂 (219.xxx.xxx.61) 發表主題:36 回應文章:183 日期:2004-11-14 23:12
但並不知係用乜機種???
如果Canon就用Canon EF 50mm f/1.4 usm啦!或耍好玩!歐洲鏡:Cari Zeiss
T* Lenses_Tessar T* f/2.8 45mm(日本製)約H.K.$2300

nikon 機 無得選...只好買 nikon 50mm 1.4啦!
 


作者:Ferrarian (219.xxx.xxx.51) 發表主題:49 回應文章:792 日期:2004-11-14 21:35
thx everybody
then i'll save the money lu
actually i got a 50mm 1.8, just thinking whether i should sell it for
a 1.4
but after taking ur advice, i better use the money for a polaroid
camera lu
 

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作者:Lawrence C. (219.xxx.xxx.39) 發表主題:116 回應文章:657 日期:2004-11-14 15:58
Ferrarian兄,我都係建議你買Nikon 50mm F1.8 囉!我自已F1.8同F1.4兩支鏡
都用過,較果上其實唔係差好遠,可見圖,上面o個張用1.4,下面o個張用
1.8,可以比較吓啦!而且只係差一级光圏就要比多千幾蚊,我會覺得就唔係太
值囉!!!千幾蚊可以買多好多嘢啦!haha!!!多多指教!!!

 

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作者:birds1010 (219.xxx.xxx.1) 發表主題:265 回應文章:8594 日期:2004-11-14 14:14
Ferrarian Hing

I agreed with Jess that the optical difference may not be large
between f1.7 and f1.4. The usage coverage may be the same. Of
course, the f1.7 is far more lighter. The opportunity cost to a
product is different between cases.

In catering your need to take portraits, I recommend the Nikon AF
85mm f1.8. Please compare the depth of field meter on the lens
barrel and you will find the reason of a portrait lens should fall
85mm to 120mm/135mm/180mm. The bokeh will be much better if you hire
a real portrait lens rather than a so-called portrait lens (50mm).

For a 85mm, after cropping effect on D70, becomes around 120mm. It
is suitable for 'Head and Shoulder' pictures. The perspective
control of this lens will be different from a 50mm.

Hope you don't mind for diverting you to the other direction. Just
share. For my Nikon system, I do not use neither 50mm nor 85mm for
taking portraits. I use the AFS VR 70-200mm for portraits. Most
often, I will use my Minolta 80-200mm f2.8 which I like more than the
Nikon AFS VR.

Regarding Zeiss, I have only came across with Hasselblad and Contax.
I used a vintage Zeiss standard lens for Hasse before. I could not
stand the incovenience of focusing process and framing. Moreover,
the number of photos per roll of film hindered the interest of
continuance. I gave up the Hassel. The photo outcome by Hassel
partnered with Zeiss lens was terrific. Colour rendition is natural,
low contrast and skin tone is thick. These result only apply to old
vintage Hassel Zeiss lens with very thin coating.

For playing with Contax was only to satisfy my mystery to Zeiss. In
my experience with 25mm, 28mm, 28-85mm and 40-80mm, I found that the
colour saturation of Zeiss (modern) was too exciting for me. The
colour rendition was boosted to more brilliant than the objects. The
whole Contax system was deployed by a huge monetary loss.

I prefer more natural colour rendition, such as Leitz, Minolta,
Rollei, Voigtlander (oldies) and Angenieux.

However, I must add that the talent and experience of making glasses
by Zeiss is higher and older than other brands I have mentioned.
This info can be proven by many articles currently.

birds
 


作者:Ferrarian (203.xxx.xxx.180) 發表主題:49 回應文章:792 日期:2004-11-14 11:33
ths birds1010 hing, ur explanation is so detail, and the comparison
is very logical.
i'm very new to photography, therefore i know very little.
i really appreciate ur patience and enthusiasm to share ur
experience with newbees like me.

i take human portraits most. as u have said, i use it as a portrait
lens. Therefore, skin colour is my first concern.
large aperture also helps me to take photo in dim light (as i dun
know how to use flash properly)

have u come across any zeiss lens?
 

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作者:birds1010 (219.xxx.xxx.233) 發表主題:265 回應文章:8594 日期:2004-11-14 02:26
Ferrarian Hing

I would buy the first version of AF Nikkor 50mm f1.7. If you have
the chance to check with different versions, you will find that the
glasses of the oldest version are much more better than the latter.
It is not necessary to be proven by pictures. It can be recognised
by eyeball checking.

In my personal opinion, I would prefer to take a 50mm f1.4 for
whatever brand. I was told by some senior amateurs that every camera
manufacturing company will put most efforts on the f1.4 standard lens
because it is a STANDARD lens reflecting their standard. The
material being used for f1.4 is different from the f1.7.
Alternatively, the same applies on the f1.2 and f1.4.

Uptill now, I think most of the marketing standard lenses were
designed mainly for film photo. Therefore, I would prefer to choose
a f1.4 because of it suits both film and digital photos, why not pay
more serious on it.

For the optical quality of smaller aperture is better than wider
aperture, I only have came across by Alpa. I don't think it can be
construed as a precedent because the design of the two lenses were
different.

Leica 50mm f2 (R lens) is the standard lens I like most which I sold
mine for only HKD 1,300 several years ago. I missed this lens very
much. I deeply regretted for selling it because I have chosen to
keep the Leica 60mm f2.8 Macro which have been along with me from the
first day I owned Leica R system.

I am having a M Leica 50mm f2 (rigid), AF Minolta 50mm f1.4 and
Minolta MC Rokkor 58mm f1.2. They rank high position of me.

We need to choose 50mm lens seriously because it is widely accepted
that the perspective angle of view are most comfortable. Please
visit any of the Delifrance (cafe) and see the photos on their wall.
Most were taken by standard lens.

50mm lens being used on digital has turned to another issue for being
a portrait lens. The designed of depth-of-field was spoiled. The
soul of a 50mm lens should refers to the actual film size, do you
agree?

Nice to chat with you.

birds

p.s. My views are based on collection and usage while it is suggested
to consider the C/P ratio which is different from persons.
 


作者:NSX (202.xxx.xxx.9) 發表主題:117 回應文章:1193 日期:2004-11-14 02:07
不過半stop有時真係無乜用,我自己用canon,玩開支50/1.8,淡色,小小soft,跟住
玩支ef50/2.5marco,色滿意又夠sharp,之後一路長用,不過係對焦慢小小,可以接
受!!
 

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作者:Ferrarian (219.xxx.xxx.253) 發表主題:49 回應文章:792 日期:2004-11-14 01:32
birds1010 hing, i'm using d70
 

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作者:好朋友 (218.xxx.xxx.114) 發表主題:59 回應文章:813 日期:2004-11-14 01:15
I agree with Jess, but i am using 50mm f1.4

 

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作者:birds1010 (219.xxx.xxx.233) 發表主題:265 回應文章:8594 日期:2004-11-14 01:00
Ferrarian Hing

May I know what brand of camera body will the buying 50mm be used on?

birds
 


作者:Express (218.xxx.xxx.48) 發表主題:39 回應文章:478 日期:2004-11-14 00:54
Nikon AF 50mm f/1.4D Prime   1,980
Nikon AF 50mm f/1.8D Prime   700
 

Nikon D70 Nikkor 24-120vr Tokina 12-24 Nikkor 85mm 1.4 Sigma 80-400 OS Tamron 28-75 2.8 Kenko TelePlus Pro1.4x Sb-800 Manfrotto 190ProB+486rc

作者:Jess... (218.xxx.xxx.116) 發表主題:361 回應文章:2345 日期:2004-11-14 00:49
唔.....我過人覺得啦...
顏色枝枝鏡唔同, 如果顏色質數(唔係成像)差少少可以photoshop執,
1.8個枝$6xx,加埋filter 都係$7xx,差成2k喎!
save多1k,你就可以買枝cheap cheap wide len, 又有多樣野玩喎~
何況我覺得1.8都唔太差。下面依張上次用50mm 1.8影, 無執ps。
我無1.4個枝,睇下有無網友幫手post下比你比較~
#1 using f2.8

 

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作者:birds1010 (219.xxx.xxx.233) 發表主題:265 回應文章:8594 日期:2004-11-14 00:48
Leica 50mm f2 (3 cam), you won't be regretted.
 


作者:Express (218.xxx.xxx.48) 發表主題:39 回應文章:478 日期:2004-11-14 00:45
1.4 同 1.8 用料都唔同

自己去試下
 

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作者:Ferrarian (219.xxx.xxx.253) 發表主題:49 回應文章:792 日期:2004-11-14 00:29
Jess姐,多謝你的意見
其實我都有你檭靰k,所以先想問下人值唔值得買1.4
其實買1.4唔係貪佢光圈大d,而係諗住佢影出黎質素好d,顏色靚d
 

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作者:Jess... (218.xxx.xxx.116) 發表主題:361 回應文章:2345 日期:2004-11-14 00:23
我會揀50mm 1.8,
一來有幾可用到1.4丫, focus 得一小點清之喎。影貓得左眼清,左眼都bur。
二來錢的問題。有多餘錢我會買其他野玩。

當然, 最緊要你自已鐘意。鐘意的,又affort得起, 又有咩所謂。
買左記得影多d相分享分享喎~!!!
 

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作者:Express (218.xxx.xxx.48) 發表主題:39 回應文章:478 日期:2004-11-14 00:03
1.4 gogogo
 

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作者:Ferrarian (219.xxx.xxx.253) 發表主題:49 回應文章:792 日期:2004-11-14 00:02
>> 咁快換鏡?
contax/leica 啦
覺得出黎效果saturation高d, 有味道d

versa, 我都係諗下諸,睇下年尾有無bonus la
contax/leica我都想睇下架,不過唔知幾多錢呢,好似個mount都成千銀
zeiss都好似唔錯
人地話歐洲鏡影人柔d
 

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作者:Versa (219.xxx.xxx.80) 發表主題:61 回應文章:974 日期:2004-11-13 18:32
咁快換鏡?
contax/leica 啦
覺得出黎效果saturation高d, 有味道d
 


作者:SonyBoy (203.xxx.xxx.87) 發表主題:145 回應文章:4262 日期:2004-11-13 17:46
1.4啦........
 


作者:CD-rom (210.xxx.xxx.196) 發表主題:8 回應文章:77 日期:2004-11-13 13:39
1.4 made in japan
1.8 made in china

1.4 all glass
1.8 one of the lens not made from glass
 


作者:NSX (202.xxx.xxx.125) 發表主題:117 回應文章:1193 日期:2004-11-13 13:33
1.4,唔會後悔架,果半個STOP差好遠架!
 

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作者: Ferrarian (202.xxx.xxx.58) 發表主題:49 回應文章:792 日期:2004-11-13 10:58

想買支靚d的50mm鏡
心目中想買nikon 50mm 1.4或歐洲鏡
想問下歐洲鏡邊支正,同埋幾銀
nikon 50mm 1.4/歐洲鏡比起nikon 50mm 1.8, 成像差幾遠?
值唔值得俾多千幾二千蚊去買?
 

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